Dang It Gold’s Supposed to Go Up! Report 4 December, 2016

We’ve gone through a succession of events and processes that were supposed to make gold go up. The following list is by no means exhaustive:

Quantitative Easing
Bernanke’s Helicopter Drops
Janet Yellen’s Keynesianism
Obama’s Deficits (US government debt is now a hair away from $20,000,000,000—and that’s just the little part of it they put on their balance sheet)
The election of Trump
The Italian Referendum (current as we write this)

Each has been good for a little blip that has been forgotten in the noise. We are seeing articles now that have moved on to the next old-new story. It seems that Trump is going to spend a lot on infrastructure. This will require massive deficits. But the market will distrust that the government can pay. So we will see a twin sell off of the US dollar in terms of other currencies, and Treasury bonds in terms of dollars. This will cause the mases to Discover Gold and the gold price is going to skyrocket. Click here to buy our fine gold, we have the very best gold.

We get it. Everyone thinks that interest rates are going up because inflation because more spending. Actually not quite everyone—our view is that the drivers which have caused the interest rate to fall for 35 years are still in full, deadly effect. Nor the folks who are bidding on junk bonds, or stocks for that matter.

But most everyone. Rates have to go up, because they’re lower than ever before history. Right?

And if rates are going up, then so is gold, right?

The Treasury bond is payable only in US dollars. The US dollar, which is the liability of the Federal Reserve, is backed on by Treasurys. It’s a nice little check-kiting scheme. But besides that, the two instruments have the same risks. If you don’t like the bond, then you won’t like the dollar either. The day will come when en masse, the market decides it doesn’t like both of them, and gold will be the only acceptable money.

With due respect to our old friend Aragorn, today is not that day!

We believe interest rates are headed lower, not higher. But that said, we do not see any particular causal relationship between the interest rate and the price of gold. The former is the spread between the Fed’s undefined asset and its undefined liability. It is unhinged and while it could shoot the moon from Truman through Carter, it’s sailing in the other direction now. Down to Hell.

The price of gold is the exchange rate between the Fed’s liability and metal. So long as people strive to get more dollars—most especially including those who bet on the price of gold, and those who write letters encouraging the bettors—there is no reason for this exchange rate to explode.

To again plagiarize the Ranger from the North, the day will come when gold goes into permanent backwardation. But today is not that day!

Today (Friday’s close), the price of gold is down seven Federal Reserve Notes from where it was a week ago.

So where to from here? Are those dratted fundamentals moving?

We will update those fundamentals below. But first, here’s the graph of the metals’ prices.

The Prices of Gold and Silver

Next, this is a graph of the gold price measured in silver, otherwise known as the gold to silver ratio. It fell a bit more this week.

The Ratio of the Gold Price to the Silver Price

For each metal, we will look at a graph of the basis and cobasis overlaid with the price of the dollar in terms of the respective metal. It will make it easier to provide brief commentary. The dollar will be represented in green, the basis in blue and cobasis in red.

Here is the gold graph.

The Gold Basis and Cobasis and the Dollar Price

The price of gold fell (i.e. the price of the dollar rose, green line), and the basis (abundance) fell and cobasis (scarcity) rose just a bit.

Our calculated fundamental price of gold fell about ten bucks, now about $1,200 even.

Now let’s look at silver.

The Silver Basis and Cobasis and the Dollar Price

In silver, we see a 14-cent rise in price but the cobasis is up.

The fundamentals got ever-so-slightly tighter. And our calculated fundamental price moved up to just under $15.

We note that speculators bid silver up this evening (Arizona time) in the wake of the Italian vote, some 30 cents to just under $17. But as of this publication, they couldn’t hold the line and the price fell back and is now a nickel below Friday’s close.

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RD says:

2016-12-05 at 00:04

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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jtibbs says:

2016-12-05 at 01:46

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. RD says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 02:15
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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ponast says:

2016-12-05 at 02:23

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. RD says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 02:53
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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  1. bbartlow says:
    
    2016-12-05 at 11:24
    
    I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
    
    The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
    
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    1. RD says:
      
      2016-12-05 at 11:39
      
      I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
      
      The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
      
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      1. RD says:
        
        2016-12-05 at 12:11
        
        I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
        
        The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
2. bbartlow says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 11:37
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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jmf says:

2016-12-05 at 04:21

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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andy106 says:

2016-12-05 at 07:15

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. ponast says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 07:36
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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2. Bron Suchecki says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 23:36
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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Pizza Genie says:

2016-12-05 at 16:40

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. amusedobserver says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 17:29
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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2. Pizza Genie says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 17:36
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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3. Bron Suchecki says:
  
  2016-12-05 at 23:51
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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  1. mossmoon says:
    
    2016-12-09 at 17:23
    
    I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
    
    The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
    
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    1. Bron Suchecki says:
      
      2016-12-09 at 22:04
      
      I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
      
      The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
      
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      1. mossmoon says:
        
        2016-12-11 at 18:33
        
        I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
        
        The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
      2. Bron Suchecki says:
        
        2016-12-11 at 20:10
        
        I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
        
        The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
mhabner says:

2016-12-05 at 18:25

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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Keith Weiner says:

2016-12-05 at 22:32

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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Dave H says:

2016-12-06 at 05:38

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. Bron Suchecki says:
  
  2016-12-06 at 15:22
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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2016-12-07 at 17:47

I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.

The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.

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1. ponast says:
  
  2016-12-08 at 06:31
  
  I do not think Keith has said that the price could not be manipulated, tactically/short term as I mentioned, but that the theory that the price was continually suppressed over the long term was not supported by the facts, as to implement such a supression the bullion banks would need to have massive naked short position in the futures market (which is what many claim) and would be forced to buy back the expiring contract and sell the next. Such massive buying of an expiring contract would cause the basis to rise, yet the opposite occurs, see https://www.monetary-metals.com/gold-always-wins-report-6-november-2016/ for more details.
  
  The DB chat logs show us collusions to tactically manipulate the market. If you read the complaint, you do not see any chats referring to intent to suppress the price on an ongoing, multi-period basis, nothing about managing their naked short position, nor how they are acting for the Fed. The complaint resorts to statistical analysis to argue that those tactical manipulations resulted in ongoing price weakness, and I think if they are going to prove damages they are going to have to do a better job because there are a number of holes in their analysis.
  
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Keith Weiner	PhD, CEO & Founder, Chairman of the Board	Leadership Team	Keith Weiner is an economist who is a leading authority in the areas of gold, money, and credit and has made important contributions to monetary theory. He is also an entrepreneur who specializes in businesses that solve hard problems. Before Monetary Metals, he founded DiamondWare, a software company that developed 3D voice technology, sold to Nortel in 2008. He is the President of the Gold Standard Institute USA. He earned his PhD from the New Austrian School of Economics.
Jeff Deist	Chief Risk Officer	Leadership Team	Jeff spent ten years as president of the Mises Institute, where he wrote hundreds of articles and delivered countless speeches on topics of monetary policy, gold, and central banking. Prior to that he worked on Capitol Hill as Chief of Staff for Congressman Ron Paul. He previously worked as an attorney in law firms and public accounting firms specializing in private equity, mergers & acquisitions, and tax. Jeff holds degrees in law and taxation.
John Flaherty	Chief Operating Officer	Leadership Team	Throughout his career, John has excelled in operational leadership roles in the fields of commercial construction management, real estate development and education. In his recent role as Director of Real Estate Development for BASIS Independent Schools, John was responsible for developing a national portfolio of elite private schools. He has a bachelor’s degree in civil engineering from Arizona State University and pursued graduate studies in economics at the University of Arizona.
Nathan Lucas	Chief Financial Officer	Leadership Team	Nathan Lucas has over 25 years as an accounting professional. After graduating with a Bachelor of Commerce (Major Accounting & Economics) from Monash University, he was admitted to the Institute of Chartered Accountant in Australia whilst working in the audit division of Ernst & Young. Nathan has worked in a variety of senior finance roles including guiding a start-up to IPO, extensive experience in ERP system implementation as well as being CEO and founder of an Accounting Software business.
Miranda Werstiuk	Chief Revenue Officer	Leadership Team	Miranda has over 30 years’ experience in finance for the resources sector. She has worked across the spectrum of transaction mechanisms (equity, debt, and alternative financing), with a focus on complex structuring for creative and mutually beneficial solutions. She has relationships with private and public corporate issuers, as well as high net worth individual and institutional investors. Miranda regularly contributes to conferences including PDAC, 121 Mining, Mining Indaba, Mines & Money London, IMARC, and CIM. She is Chair of the Program Advisory Group for planetGOLD, which seeks to eliminate mercury used by artisanal and small gold miners, as well as being a long-standing participant and committee member of WIM Toronto.
Dickson Buchanan, Jr	Chief Commercial Officer	Leadership Team	Prior to joining Monetary Metals, Dickson served as Senior Broker and Director of International Development at SchiffGold, where he helped a wide range of investors to obtain a strategic allocation into gold and silver both domestically and abroad. He received a Master‘s in Economics from King Juan Carlos University in Madrid, Spain where he studied under renowned Spanish economists Jesús Huerta de Soto and Juan Ramón Rallo.
KC Sparks	Chief Technology Officer	Leadership Team	A graduate of The Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering at ASU, KC is a value-driven technology expert with a proven record for developing and implementing robust software solutions that enhance profitability, efficiency, and redundancy. He has led initiatives resulting in SOC 2 compliance, optimized infrastructure and deployment workflows, and ensured optimal prioritization and execution of software strategies aligned with the intricate demands of the financial sector—all while fostering a culture of ownership, empowerment, and collaboration among his growing team. His evolution from Lead Software Engineer to Chief Technology Office reflects his commitment to excellence and deep understanding of software development.
Addison Quale	Vice President Relationship Management	Leadership Team	Addison concentrated in economics at Harvard University and came to embrace libertarian thought while studying for a Master of Divinity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Addison worked as a precious metals specialist at SchiffGold, with additional work experience at Cambridge Associates, a Boston based investment consulting firm.
Mark Pey	Director of Strategic Relationships \| Dubai office	Leadership Team	Mark brings significant experience across financial services, technology, and digital physical gold management to Monetary Metals. His career background includes roles as Financial Services Industry Manager, Microsoft Corporation, where he ran Microsoft's financial services practice across Australia, New Zealand, and 'English speaking Asia' (Singapore and Hong Kong). He was also Vice President, J.P. Morgan American Century, where he ran institutional investment sales for some of their largest clients including Intel Corporation. Lockheed-Martin, and Bechtel Corporation.
Jeffrey Rhodes	Managing Director Business Development, Middle East and Asia	Leadership Team	A leading expert in the international precious metals market, Jeffrey is widely recognized as 'The Godfather of Gold Leasing.' For over 45 years, he served major financial institutions, including Credit Suisse, HSBC, Standard Bank, and StoneX. He founded Rhodes Precious Metals Consultancy DMCC in 2013, was appointed as Principal Consultant to Goldstrom Pte in 2022, and in 2025, he was named the CEO of Goldstrom Advisory DMCC. He's played a prominent role in the development of the Dubai Multi Commodity Centre, and he's been a member of Dubai’s Gold Advisory Group since its inception in 2003. He was a Chairman of the Public Affairs Committee of the LBMA, during which time he founded its popular trade magazine, The Alchemist.
Andrew Senior	Vice President Strategic Relationships	Leadership Team	Andrew is a creative entrepreneur with experience in investor engagement, commercial partnerships, and scalable growth strategies. With a career spanning decades and continents, he has founded and scaled several successful ventures, including Skuuudle, IT247.com, and Marsland Holdings—and raised over £65 million in capital across various funding rounds. He has led international expansion efforts across the US, China, and Russia, has advised C-level teams on fintech, pricing automation, & emerging tech, and drove strategic partnerships and investment initiatives at Glint Pay.
Hiren Chandaria	Managing Director, Middle East and Asia Operations	Leadership Team	Hiren Chandaria is a seasoned precious metals executive with over two decades of experience in gold investment, structured finance, and market development. He helped structure India’s first and largest gold savings fund, which won CNBC’s “Most Innovative Fund” award, while another fund he managed was ranked Bloomberg’s best-performing gold fund globally. A CFA Charterholder and Sloan Fellow of London Business School, Hiren leads Monetary Metals’ expansion across the Middle East and Asia.
Jim Brown	Director	Board of Directors	Jim lives in Jackson Hole and manages the Justice Brown Family Office. His finance career includes ten years as a stockbroker and 20 years as partner and portfolio manager at Brandes Investment Partners of San Diego. Prior to his finance career, he was an Air Force instructor pilot and an airline pilot. Jim is a Chartered Financial Analyst, holds an MBA from Harvard Business School and a BS in political science from the United States Air Force Academy.
Simon Guenzl	Director	Board of Directors	Simon Guenzl has over 30 years of experience in finance, including over 20 years in private-markets investing. His experience includes advising on mergers & acquisitions at several leading Wall Street investment banks, making venture-capital investments in start-ups, and investing in private-equity and venture-capital funds on both a primary and secondary basis. He holds a law degree from the University of Western Australia and an MBA from the Wharton School of Business.
Ronald P. Stöferle	Advisor	Board of Advisors	Ronnie is managing partner of Incrementum AG and responsible for Research and Portfolio Management. Upon graduation, he joined the Research department of Erste Group, where he published his first “In Gold We Trust” report in 2007. The report has become one of the benchmark publications on gold, money, and inflation. Since 2013, he has held the position as reader at scholarium in Vienna, and he also speaks at Wiener Börse Akademie. In 2014, he co-authored the book “Austrian School for Investors” and in 2019 “Die Nullzinsfalle” (The Zero Interest Rate Trap). He is a member of the board of Tudor Gold, a Canadian exploration company, and an advisor to Matterhorn Asset Management, a global leader in asset preservation in the form of physical gold stored outside the banking system.
Mark Valek	Advisor	Board of Advisors	Mark is fund manager and partner of Incrementum AG. His passion is to apply interdisciplinary thinking to investment. He is particularly fascinated with the Austrian School of Economics, monetary history, and the foreseeable paradigm shift in the monetary system. Prior to the establishment of Incrementum AG, he was with Raiffeisen Capital Management for ten years, most recently as fund manager in the area of inflation protection and alternative investments. He gained entrepreneurial experience as co-founder of Philoro Edelmetalle GmbH. Since 2013, he has held the position as reader at scholarium in Vienna, and he also speaks at Wiener Börse Akademie. In 2014, he co-authored the book “Austrian School for Investors”.
Brent Johnson	Advisor	Board of Advisors	A globally recognized macroeconomic professional with over 25 years of financial markets experience, Brent is the CEO of Santiago Capital. Previously he served as Managing Director at BakerAvenue, a $2.5 billion wealth management practice where he advised several of the firm’s largest clients. Prior to that, he worked almost a decade in the private client group at Credit Suisse. Brent is widely known for his “Dollar Milkshake Theory” and speaks frequently on macroeconomics, currencies, and precious metals.

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