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3 responses to “The Elephant in the Gold Room, Report 16 June”

  1. The gold/silver ratio, despite being legislated at 15:1 in 1792 in the USA, moved above that “fixed” level a few years before silver was demonetized both in the USA (Coinage Act of 1873) and in Europe (1871 – 1874). At any time in the intervening 145 years “the wage-earners who cannot afford gold” have had the opportunity to buy silver to their hearts’ content (and to thus shift the ratio to a lower value). But they haven’t.

    Instead the gold/silver ratio has been in a generally rising trend (presently at the highest level since 1993 but still below its all-time high in 1991. There is something about that condition – about 145 years of history – that suggests forces other than sentiment of the relatively “poor” precious metals buyers is at work. As regards “wealthier savers who have the option of using silver”, I ask, why would they? Your phrase, “… the relative bargain…” is subjectively judgmental and can only be verified in hindsight.

    I have a lot of respect for your work, Keith, but I think that you are missing something here and it’s not an elephant.

  2. Dear Keith,
    Thank you for this article, which somewhat answers the question I had asked earlier ” Why should anyone hold savings in precious metals? When you or your heirs need to spend or use those savings it will be dollars (or whatever future currency the world decides it wants) that you will need anyway.”
    Thinking about this and reading your post and Jim’s comment above, I have made a hypothesis… Precious metals are being used to save that capital which people intend to pass onto future generations, perhaps in perpetuity. They don’t intend to convert this capital asset back to dollars unless it’s the last resort. If that is indeed the psychology at work, it will explain why gold continues to remain off the market (and why it’s scarcity might increase over the decades…I wonder if that’s true?) as well as why the gold silver ratio has fallen so drastically (people expect gold to hold value far more than silver over the coming centuries). It explains why people with a sociocultural proclivity for long term intergenerational saving (read Chinese/ Indian) buy so much gold (even though it’s barely 10% of the assets of the Chinese and Indians I know!) while people with the cultural background of self independence (one life/ spend it while you can/ the kids gotta look out for themselves) prefer to hold no gold or even go into debt ( that credit card debt is certainly written off on death!).
    So what do you think?

  3. Agreed, the larger trend has been away from silver. Question is, has there been a meaningful break in historical parameters? And I would answer there has not been — at least not yet.

    Longer term parameters are well established — generally 30:1 on the low side and 100:1 on the high side. Long gone are the 70’s/80’s when silver was almost trapped in a 40:1 to 30:1 range, back and forth, back and forth. Since then silver has effectively been a huge bear market relative to gold. That is what most of us see and feel. Silver is a has-been.

    But the longstanding parameters of 30:1 – 100:1 remain reliable reference points until proven otherwise.

    In fact, the ratio traded at 32:1 as recently as 2011 (just 8 years ago?) in the midst of that year’s speculative blow off. Of course, such a feat (32:1) required a massive influx of speculative and leveraged money, which more typical of market tops than bottoms. So I find today’s ratio –being just 10 pts from the 100:1 extreme — to be a ‘low-risk’ proposition compared to gold.

    More importantly, the high ratio — especially in the midst of gold breaking out of its large consolidation pattern — is very encouraging on its technical merits. Why? Because it shows an complete lack of speculative interest in silver, which is called “the poor man’s gold” for good reason, as it’s the go-to investment vehicle for those who cannot afford gold. And where I come from a market devoid of leverage and speculation — especially when a bullish position is somewhat warranted — is a bullish sign.

    In a very real way it’s the flip side of 2011. Gold is breaking out and nobody cares. If they did care, the ratio would moving back down, at least some. But it’s not.

    There’s an old saying that “Markets make opinions”. People don’t get bullish and wait for prices to rise. Prices rise and investors then get more and more bullish until there is a widespread plurality of opinion… which is the top.

    No doubt a long bear market in silver has pushed many-a-bull to the breaking point, even to the point of discarding silver altogether. But as silver prices rise we will see opinions change once again, just a day follows night.

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