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7 responses to “The Wealth Effect, Report 24 Jun 2018”

  1. Good article. I do have to question the following excerpt:

    “He believes there is accumulated capital, in his name, waiting for him to retire. As we explained last week, the government consumed that capital and replaced it with a counterfeit promise to pay. But at least, for Eric’s sake, that bond has a robust market value. The bond can never be redeemed, but at least it can be sold.”

    I understand that the Social Security “Trust Fund” contains non-marketable securities as described in the Social Security Annual Report – https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TRSUM/tr17summary.pdf That being the case I would think the bond having a market value is not in the strictest sense true and nor is it true that the bonds can be sold. Thoughts?

    1. Bonds can currently be sold because there is a market for them. If you are questioning whether they can Always be sold, I might understand where you’re going.

      There might be a time when inflation is so rampant or the dollar so questionable that a bond’s value has been largely destroyed, making them virtually unmarketable or sold only at pennies on the dollar.

      Also worth noting is that today’s debts are so mammoth that even a highly liquid market like U.S. Treasuries can only handle the sale of a small percentage of outstanding bonds at one time. There would no mathematical way to sell a large percentage of bonds at one time (who could buy them but the FED?) and when it comes to “non-marketable securities” (as you noted above) even the Social Security administration is admitting that some of their so-called assets are of very questionable marketability. If a real market doesn’t exist, we might presume the bonds could likely be sold back to their issuer (like a GS) but at what price one might ask.

      As we learned back in 2008 even the largest markets can be thrown into extreme turmoil when institutions are dumping large quantities of bonds. Bear Sterns certainly couldn’t… and the problem is far worse now.

      Good comments… thanks.

  2. Another classic by the Maestro.

    We also see young people who might question the viability of SS but who believe that out-sized stock market returns are virtually guaranteed for decades to come. Thus, much like Eric in this week’s example, young people assume a lower savings rate will be sufficient to carry them through given the 7 – 8% they have come to assume is a God-given right from Wall Street.

    That, too, I would argue leads to over-consumption.

  3. Thanks for the comments. I want to add a few points.

    The bonds held by the SS trust fund may be, by law today, non-marketable. They’re just one change in the law from being marketable.

    If the market grows to dislike the dollar, then that won’t necessarily affect how many dollars they’re willing to pay for the bond. Remember, the bond is payable in dollars, and the dollar is backed by the bond. The price of the bond is in dollars, and is hence self-referential.

    There are many categories of bond buyers. The net result is that they provide a firm bid to buy the bond off you. So the bond may not be redeemable, but fresh capital is offered to take the bond off your hands. And why shouldn’t buyers buy it? It’s profitable! The Fed has established perverse incentives, indeed.

  4. “one change in the law from being marketable”..indeed. It reminds us that not only does government establish rules but those rules can and do change. In fact, governments around the world have a long history of changing the rules (mostly related to taxes) anytime they experience a desperate need for cash. Which is exactly why we should all be on red alert… and assume nothing about our financial future.

  5. Keith, you call attention this week to a difference between two gold basis charts–the usual chart of the near contract, and the continuous chart. When I compare them, I uncomfortably realize I really don’t understand the continuous chart or how it relates to the near-contract chart. Your caption describes the continuous basis as a “splicing together of individual” values, but I don’t understand that, either! For example, the 3-month continuous cobasis has been below -2% for 2 months, but the near (Aug) cobasis has been *above* -2% for nearly all of the last 5 months. I’m so lost that I don’t know where to start. Perhaps here: What values splice together to yield the continuous chart? (Sorry if I am an outlier here!) Thanks for all that you do!

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