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  1. I appreciate the analysis but am more simple minded. I merely prefer that money have a definition. Saving baseball cards and beanie babies is its own satisfaction but saving a big pile of potential is asking the kinetic minded to liberate it. Many are concerned about a fixed amount of money limiting what can be done and certainly money misers/hoarders should not be given the satisfaction of collecting all the chips. But my concern is 1)over-stimulation of economic effort when too much money is created i.e. doing too much, polluting, ruining the environment etc. and 2) injustice-whoever creates the money has the power and rules. Closest to the Aladdin’s lamp of monetary largesse gets the goodies-everyone else is a serf. The entity that creates money certainly doesn’t need to worry about an interest rate-they just create what they need. This power is dictatorial and makes a lie of anything resembling a social contract or the responsibilities of citizenship.

    1. Hi Drew. Excellent points. Agree about trying to keep things simple and comprehensible.

      I sometimes need to remind myself that this system isn’t creating money; it’s creating credit, and those aren’t the same things.

    2. Money: the most marketable commodity.
      Or, if you will money: the extinguisher of debt.
      The dollar is not money.
      A finite quantity (gold is not fixed, it can be mined in response to an incentive which is the response to certain signals) does not limit what can be done.
      Miners do not collect all the chips, they perform a service and make money (just like doctors and farmers and everyone else).
      If “too much” is defined by central planners, that is the problem.

    3. [S]aving a big pile of potential is asking the kinetic-minded to liberate it. (drew)

      This is precisely the defining clause gone missing in the Thoroughly Modern Millie-nial money. Even more than outright “redeemability” is the key principle is that real resources be sequestered to “back” any issuance of bank notes. That needn’t be physical metal, of course, but it must represent the surrender or real delay of all other uses for the collateral resource, for which there is active demand. This is the intergenerational bargain behind the growth of wealth: capital must be structured in forms that activate a real economy. It must be the present demand for the collateral that sustains its value and by extension the value of the bank notes. Redeemability is nice because it suggests that market forces can correctly price the collateral vs the utility of commercial currency, but that clearly stands out in addition to the actual sequestering of the backing capital.
      The fact that US currency is backed by (albeit government debt) paper with an active and liquid market is the thing that has kept it alive, all whining about unrestrained “printing” aside.

  2. Hi Keith. Great analysis and good idea to address the 3 factions.

    I don’t think “gold bugs” exist. They are just like the noisy sell-side for equities – talking up the benefits of buying that which they are selling. It takes a snake oil vendor to sell “investments” that are nothing of the sort.

    But how to distinguish your message amongst all that noise is a challenge.

    Best.

  3. One quick tangential point, first:

    …we’d bet an ounce of fine gold against a soggy dollar bill that there were plenty of indications shown by sensitive seismographs for months before the [Mt. St. Helen] earthquake.

    No doubt there. But seismology has its own dissident school which has been giving accurate earthquake and volcano forecasts from long (standing) wave propagation at the plate boundaries and antipodal resonances through the earth’s core. [Youtuber Dutchsinse is its most-engaging protagonist.] It clearly takes a synthesis of micro and macro factors to move mountains&emdash;economically or seismically. Movement also flows where resistance is weakest: hence to over-fracked sites, or over-socialized industries. I submit that the U.S. education industry looms as the next to be moved by the monetary stresses that have built.

  4. Hi Keith, A million thanks for your brilliant dissection of some of Keynes’ statements recently. It has made everything crystal clear and the enlightenment makes one feel like a king.

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