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10 responses to “Mea Culpa, Report 9 April, 2017”

  1. Well spotted Keith and thank you for your honesty. The new ‘picture’ seems more realistic to me and I’m rather pleased because I don’t have much dry powder at the moment.

  2. Keith,
    Different providers use different codes for same data. Right now, the online broker OptionsExpress shows GCM17 while TD Ameritrade shows /GCM7
    And retail providers like to change, and their data feeds like to change as well, including sometimes their T&Cs so what you think is the same is not actually the same.

    A classic one is the closing price. If you check the closing price of e.g. DJIA over a dozen sources, you will find that on certain days they are not the same! (and I’m not referring to days were trading is halted. Sometimes the formula for “computing” a close value changes, sometimes the value is manually fudged, sometimes the last trade is not on the main exchange but the main is reported, etc.).
    => I suggest that you keep a backup feed and always do a comparison, as you cannot detect “bad data” just by looking at it – you need a separate reference.

    Another idea I suggest, is to trigger a manual check when all conditions seem fine, but your computed abs(true value – market value) exceeds a certain percentage. This would help you detect issues that you have not even discovered and cannot protect against (unknown unknowns). In the present case it would have alerted you earlier that something was drifting.

    Good luck!

  3. wrt: the fundamental gold: silver ratio chart. The charts with corrected fundamental prices vs market prices show significantly different patterns. Silver shows a persistent gap between fundamental vs market price, and gold (since 09/16) shows an extremely close tracking to market price. I would expect that to reflect in the gold:silver ratio, and show a gap between a ratio based on your fundamental prices vs market prices. But when I look at the goldprice.org site and their ratio charts, their gold;silver ratio (based on spot prices) is a very close match to your fundamental gold:silver ratio. Please clarify whether your fundamental ratio chart is based on market price (per your definition) or fundamental price. Also: any comments of why silver fundamental to market price shows the persistent gap, and the 5/16 to 9/16 divergence in gold fundamental to market price.

    1. Mlyons, I did not post a chart of the fundamental on the gold-silver ratio this time. The chart at the top (with the black line) is the *market* gold-silver ratio per our standard Supply and Demand Report format.

  4. Whoa. You never put in any code like, “if (contract symbol violates my expected format) { throw Exception }” OMG!

    My one comfort in this is, a few weeks ago, I did post a comment saying that your fundamental prices seemed way too far above market – given that the bases were still substantially positive, we had the speculators being net long or close to it, etc.

  5. Well played, Keith. You earn my respect by publishing your error as soon as you discovered it. It marks you out not only as an honest man, but as a true ‘scientist’ with more concern for accuracy and the model than for his own blushes.

    I wonder, now, if the market prices will come down further as a result of your revised calculations! Something we shall never know. Are you aware of approximately how many people are following your output so far?

    I am surprised that the most distant (in the future) prices have such a large effect upon your model’s output. Does it give the same weight to futures prices further away as to those closer?

    Apropos your “In software, the only thing worse than a failure in a system that is used in production is a silent failure that goes unnoticed . . .”, at the beginning of my career, I spent some years working as a computer programmer Civil Servant for the UK Ministry of Defence on a high value inventory control system. Despite considerable camaraderie among us, many who had been working on the project at my level and the next managerial level up for many years, despaired of the system they were require to work on for a number of reasons, some believing that it was fundamentally beyond hope of success. I well remember my boss (a major) one day discovering, after some prolonged investigation, that one particular data item that we recalculated every month from its previous value and new inputs, was, in fact, incorrect by a wide margin and therefore had been almost since the inception of the project. These were the 1970s, when data storage was considerably more expensive and, hence, far more precious, than today’s almost unlimited capacity. His investigation had been concerned with the usefulness of the data item – which he had suspected and later confirmed was nugatory, On the day of his discovery he said, “There is only one thing worse than useless information – *wrong* useless information!”.

    (For avoidance of any doubt I am NOT indicating that I believe your output is useless!)

    1. Thank you. “True scientist” is a high honor.

      It would be an interesting experiment to determine how much effect, if any, I have on the prices of the metals. While most of the analysts and writers in the space subscribe, they don’t necessarily agree with me. I seriously doubt that the gold price moves on my word.

      I will have to leave off discussing the fundamental model at this time. ;)

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