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3 responses to “Savers are Just Collateral Damage, Report 29 Apr 2018”

  1. Love the title. This particular article had sections more difficult to follow than most, but enough was clear to be instructive.

    In the not-so-hotly debated topic of a Fundamental gold price that can be calculated or one that has meaningful utility, the recent $50 drop precisely when Fundamental was close to $1,500 supports my ongoing concerns about the efficacy of such an approach. It reminds us so much of gold’s blistering rally from $1235, doesn’t it? That rally occurred, if you’ll recall, at the precise moment the calculated Fundamental had just fallen off a cliff.

    Still, I am not here to question Monetary Metal’s very worthwhile endeavor. But I do suspect many of its fans follow the Fundamental only as a way to reinforce their near term bias (and hope!) for an immediate rally in the precious metal.

    Notice, for example, the complete lack of comments attached to this week’s missive, save mine. Have the faithful left the church? The Fundamental has let the parishioners down, I say. Which is unfortunate. It’s unfortunate to see the lack of conviction among our own ranks. Do you not believe that whether gold is $1,300 or makes the ultimate insult by dropping below $1,000… it remains what it is nevertheless?

    Most would agree that gold got ahead of itself in 2011, yet 2011 wasn’t that long ago. Are we expecting another persistent bullish trend this early in the next cycle? Have we all assumed the bottom is already in? Perhaps it has… but to my knowledge nobody has ever regretted keeping an open mind.

  2. The fundamental price is as fallible as any other risk measure, but at least it is based on sound reasoning. I would be interested to see the results of any detailed analysis of its lagged correlation with price. Certainly looking at the historical relationships between price movement and the fundamental price, it seems to be ‘reliable, most of the time’.

  3. Economic growth does not only depend on monetary policy. Ultimately, economics is not about dollars, but about moving matter and increasing the entropy of the environment. Anybody who thoughtfully watched the garbage collection at night understands what I mean by entropy. If the mineral wealth of a country is untouched, all it takes to initiate growth is perhaps a matter of mobilizing the know how and the initial wave of capital investment. However, once the mineral wealth is half depleted, serious problems show up. Mineral resources need to be imported in increasing volume. That trend started in the US in the 1970’s. Today, 40 years later, mineral wealth can not by simply bought abroad because debt levels are just too high. War is the option left in order to secure the inputs for a functioning economy. It starts with a trade war, but it could escalate to a real war. But even that option appears to be costly as defense budgets grow faster than the economy and approach $1 trillion per year. Clearly, once the mineral wealth of a country is depleted, it is extremely difficult to maintain economic growth.

    Regarding the falling savings rate: if 70% of the economy is consumption, the economic system is not sustainable. Savings are defined as the excess of production over consumption. So if production falls as a percentage of total economic activity, savings rates must fall as well.

    Regarding the gold price: Falling gold prices are more desirable than rising gold prices. As a saver, I am happy about falling gold prices. Rising gold prices represent a threat to my ability to accumulate gold during my remaining life span. Only speculators who do not work and wish to survive by buying low and selling high will complain about the manipulation of the gold prices. I welcome the manipulation of the gold price as I welcome the price manipulation of basic necessities like food, water and energy. Let us hope that gold prices will stay low for many decades to come. There is no benefit in rising gold prices.

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